In What Reality is an Increased Death Rate Evidence of Improved Treatment?

People with psychiatric diagnoses are dying younger now than they were even 10 years ago, up from 15 years lower life expectancy compared to the non-diagnosed to 25 years lower life expectancy.  And yet we have the fine folks at the Treatment Advocacy Center saying that psychiatric treatment has never been better!  Well, I guess if you don’t count all the people who die or if you count as a success someone who dies but is “mentally stable” at the time of their death, or as the old joke goes, the operation was a success but the patient died….

I really wonder sometimes what reality these folks are living in.  A reality where only some of the old state hospitals were awful?  So tell me, from a patient’s mouth or pen, which were the good old state hospitals?  A reality in which current hospital treatment is better than ever?  Hmm, not what one hears from actual patients, but what do actual patients know, they’re only the ones undergoing the treatment, let’s listen to those who have a vested interest in the continuation of psychiatric inpatient units as they are presently run instead.  When medical patients complain about the standard or manner of care they receive, we don’t just listen to the nurse or doctor who works at the place, we look into it.  But TAC and their friend Sally Satel want the agencies in charge of looking into psychiatric inpatient complaints (Protection and Advocacy in every state of the U.S.) to be defunded!  If inpatient treatment is so great these days, why would they care how much money Protection and Advocacy receives to investigate complaints? 

7 Responses to “In What Reality is an Increased Death Rate Evidence of Improved Treatment?”

  1. markps2 Says:

    How did you/What made you find this discovery of an worse death rate (today)? You should publish and document this better?

    Out of sight and out of mind is what TAC hopes for the mentally ill I guess. This can’t work today as the number % percentage of mentally ill is much higher than in the old institutional 1950’s days. I believe they stopped it way back when, not just because of civil rights, but because it cost the government lots of money. Coincidencely ,I wrote a brief post on my blog using almost the same phrase surgery-was-success-but-patient-died.

    http://psychsurvivor02.blogspot.com/2007/05/surgery-was-success-but-patient-died.html

    TAC continues with biological belief of psychiatric medicine, when (M.I)peoples (percieved) mistaken thoughts and beliefs can not be measured chemically in any way.
    Law abiding citizens should have the right to think what ever they like in their own minds.

  2. hymes Says:

    This isn’t news, it’s been all over the media and the blogs. If you google it, you will find the study. Not being an academic nor a journalist, I don’t feel the need to use footnotes….

    Yes, state hospitals reduced in size to save money, not to protect our rights, especially in Virginia. I do not belive the percentage of people with psychiatric or psychological problems is really any higher than it ever was unless you are counting in autism which has increased. I haven’t seen anything that says the population rate of “schizophrenia” has increased for instance.

  3. markps2 Says:

    Bob Whitaker says he documented it, copy and pasted from.
    http://www.thestreetspirit.org/August2005/interview.htm
    “…by 1903, we see that roughly 1 out of every 500 people in the United States is hospitalized for mental illness. By 1955, at the start of the modern era of psychiatric drugs, roughly one out of every 300 people was disabled by mental illness. Now, let’s go to 1987, the end of the first generation of antipsychotic drugs; and from 1987 forward we get the modern psychiatric drugs. From 1955 to 1987, during this first era of psychiatric drugs — the antipsychotic drugs Thorazine and Haldol and the tricyclic antidepressants (such as Elavil and Anafranil) — we saw the number of disabled mentally ill increase four-fold, to the point where roughly one out of every 75 persons are deemed disabled mentally ill.
    Now, there was a shift in how we cared for the disabled mentally ill between 1955 and 1987. In 1955, we were hospitalizing them. Then, by 1987, we had gone through social change, and we were now placing people in shelters, nursing homes, and some sort of community care, and gave them either SSI or SSDI payments for mental disability. In 1987, we started getting these supposedly better, second-generation psychiatric drugs like Prozac and the other selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitor (SSRI) antidepressants. Shortly after that, we get the new, atypical antipsychotic drugs like Zyprexa (olanzapine), Clozaril and Risperdal.

    What’s happened since 1987? Well, the disability rate has continued to increase until it’s now one in every 50 Americans. Think about that: One in every 50 Americans disabled by mental illness today. And it’s still increasing. The number of mentally disabled people in the United States has been increasing at the rate of 150,000 people per year since 1987. That’s an increase every day over the last 17 years of 410 people per day newly disabled by mental illness. “

  4. hymes Says:

    Well, but, there’s a difference between how many people are “disabled” by mental illness and how many people have it. The number of people disabled by MI may have gone up because of the new drugs and the all drugs, all the time paradigm, but that doesn’t mean the number of people who could be labeled mentally ill has gone up in proportion to the population.

  5. Meredith Says:

    I agree with where you’re coming from, but I have to ask this, since it wasn’t addressed by you/other commenters: what about the simple fact that many more people are being diagnosed today, and not necessarily in a frivolous way, but many more people are actually having their problems acknowledged as mental illness? For example, my great-great-aunt, going by anecdote, was very likely bipolar. She had severe ups, severe downs, tried to kill herself, etc. but was never diagnosed, and probably could have benefited very much from treatment of some kind, be it therapy, meds, whatever. Now, I am diagnosed bipolar. Yet, we both had it. I have a “mental illness.” She was “just eccentric.” So, it’s possible that the lowered life expectancy has always been, it’s just now we attribute those deaths to mental illness rather than “accidents,” etc, and now that these people, especially younger people, are being factored in, the life expectancy has plunged.

    …Okay, I know that’s really optimistic. But, it is highly possible that does contribute to it in some way.

  6. hymes Says:

    I see your point Meridith, but the increased death rate I was talking about excludes suicides and other unnatural deaths, it is only about “natural” deaths from illnesses such as diabetes, heart disease etc. I’m not feeling well today, but when I am feeling better I will dig out the original article and post it to my blog.

  7. Meredith Says:

    Ohhhhhh, well, uh, then disregard what I just said. That would seem to definitely be from the ridiculous medications, then. I’ll have to Google around and see if I can’t find the article myself. Though, hm. This does lead to an interesting conversation about the stresses of mental illness on the body, as well as stress from horrible treatment.

    Also, thank you for the kind words on my blog. Let me reassure you, they’ve been checking my kidneys and my thyroid regularly to start (and I will make sure they continue to monitor it!), I know lithium toxicity sadly from firsthand experience, though I caught it early because they told me about the signs and I hydrated back up and was fine (I live where it is hot year-round, so this is something I really have to look out for), I’m only taking aspirin now which makes me very sad because ibuprofen and I used to be BFF, and I have been obsessive-compulsively checking out everything I take or think about taking. Oh, and I totally quit caffeine and alcohol, except for the occasional chocolate indulgence. So, yeah, I’m good, thanks. I always try to find out what I’m putting in my body before I take it. Before the docs put me on it, while I was on the psych ward, we had a huge conversation about the risks, interactions, etc. and I’ve done my own homework since then.


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