Nonsense by WHO Endorsed by MHA

Mental Health America’s director is quoted endorsing this ridiculous finding by the World Health Organization.  In a world with AIDS and cancer, WHO says that depression is the most disabling disease?  I’ve been depressed and recovered, I have kidney failure from which I will not recover but may get a respite with a transplant, let me tell you, there is no way depression was more disabling than kidney failure.  With depression my body still worked the way it is supposed to, I could walk as much as I wanted to, I could go all day if I needed to, I never had to lie down and sleep because I got too much sun by accident or worked for a mere 6 hours or just because it was a bad day for my kidneys.  I could eat what I wanted, I didn’t have to drink 2 gallons of water a day to stay out of the hospital, I didn’t have to be vigilant every day against becoming overly dehydrated (I am chronically dehydrated due to my kidney defect).   Most people with kidney failure are depressed.  Some get help from anti-depressants or talk therapy, some do not, but if you asked any of them which disorder they would want to be cured, I would bet my home it would be their kidney failure.

These kinds of stories are kindly meant I’m sure, but they do a disservice to people living with depression who are trying to recover, causing them to think they are worse off than anyone other ill person in the world?  As if people who are depressed aren’t having enough negative thoughts?  As if recovery is not only possible but very likely even without treatment? 

And how does it make people who have cancer and AIDS feel about people with depression to read this kind of stuff? I am a person who has been depressed and reading this annoyed me and made feel as if someone who has depression and no other health problem is being ridiculous if they think they are worse off than someone with a chronic medical condition that can not be cured.  So I can’t imagine the reaction of people with cancer and AIDS and other diseases who have never been depressed to a story like this.  This kind of story leads to more prejudice, not less, in my opinion.  

 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/07/AR2007090701279.html

Depression May Be World’s Most Disabling Disease

By Steven Reinberg
HealthDay Reporter
Friday, September 7, 2007; 12:00 AM

FRIDAY, Sept. 7 (HealthDay News) — When compared with other chronic diseases, depression may well be the most disabling disease in the world, a new global study finds.
People with chronic physical diseases such as angina, arthritis, asthma and diabetes also fare far worse if they also suffer from depression, the team of international researchers found.
“Being sad is bad for your health,” according to lead researcher Dr. Somnath Chatterji, from the World Health Organization (WHO) in Geneva, Switzerland.
But all too often, he said, depression doesn’t get the serious attention paid to physical ailments.
“Treatment of mental health conditions such as depression are a necessity, not a luxury. Mental health conditions such as depression must be treated on a par with physical health conditions,” Chatterji said.
In the study, published in the Sept. 8 issue ofThe Lancet, Chatterji’s team perused data on more than 245,000 people from 60 countries participating in WHO’s World Health Survey.
They found that 3.2 percent of people had experienced a depressive episode in the past year. For people with angina, the rate was 4.5 percent; for people with arthritis, it was 4.1 percent; for those with asthma, it was 3.3 percent; and for people with diabetes, it was 2 percent.
Moreover, between 9 percent and 23 percent of people had depression in addition to suffering from one or more of these conditions. That’s significantly higher than the likelihood of having depression without having a chronic disease, Chatterji’s group noted.
After the researchers had accounted for socioeconomic factors and health conditions, they confirmed that depression had the biggest effect on worsening health compared with the other four major chronic illnesses. In different countries, people with depression plus one or more chronic diseases were in the worst health of all the disease states studied, Chatterji’s team reported.
“Compared to the chronic physical illnesses of angina, arthritis, asthma and diabetes, depression produces the most decline in health,” Chatterji said. “Having depression over and above a physical illness significantly worsens health even further,” he said.
Depression needs to be recognized and treated as an urgent public health priority, Chatterji said. “Persons with physical illnesses should also be examined for depression and treated appropriately. Primary care providers must learn to recognize and manage concurrent physical illnesses and depression to reduce disease burden and improve population health,” he added.
One expert hailed the findings.
“It is encouraging to see that results that we have been seeing from our country, from studies in the United States about the devastating effects of comorbid depression with other chronic illnesses, are replicable internationally,” said David L. Shern, the president and CEO of the nonprofit advocacy group Mental Health America.
Depression is a huge public health issue, Shern said. “Continuing to have these inane debates about whether we should have insurance coverage for mental health care, in the light of data like these, is just silly,” he said.
The study also highlights the need for integrated care and screening for depression, Shern said. “Practitioners need to be educated to look for depression, and consumers need to push their doctors to be aware of their depression,” he said.
Depression is treatable, Shern noted. “That’s one of the big stories of the last 20 years — the development of pharmacological treatments that have broad scale effectiveness,” he said. “There are psychosocial treatments, for people who don’t want to take medication, that are just as effective,” he said. “Combining the two is the preferred regimen.”

11 Responses to “Nonsense by WHO Endorsed by MHA”

  1. thememoryartist Says:

    “Being sad is bad for your health,”

    No, being sad is a normal human response. It’s pathologizing it and making it an incurable brain disease which can possibly only be managed that is bad for one’s health, and that’s only the half of it.

  2. flawedplan Says:

    The article doesnt’ make a distinction between depression, which is like the common cold, and major depressive disorder which is more rare, and rightly seen as a terminal illness. The nomenclature of psychiatry is the biggest barrier, the hardest thing to overcome in educating the public, exactly because of this shit, which is rampant.

    Yeah, everyone gets sad, most people have been depressed, and most people come out of it spontaneously or at the end of a natural grieving process. Some people don’t and the depression gets worse, and they can end up with major depression.

    Based on what we’re not allowed to talk about, it is NORMAL for some to end up with major depression, it would be ABNORMAL for some people not to have major depression. This is the problem, in pharmatown meaningless words like “depression” are thrown around, while other words like “history” and “experience” are verboten.

  3. ama Says:

    After the researchers had accounted for socioeconomic factors and health conditions, they confirmed that depression had the biggest effect on worsening health compared with the other four major chronic illnesses.

    these people write such mumbo jumbo. what does this sentence mean? absolutely nothing. and what depression are we talking about here? the depression of people who still live in post-katrina fema camps or the depression of the 2,000,000 displaced sudanese? the depression of guantanano prisoners and other people extraordinarily rendered by our kindly CIA or the depression of palestinians in gaza? cuz, myself, i think WHO is talking about none of these folks, whose depression no medication can lift, thanks a lot. WHO is talking about the two or three (million) remaining first-worlders whose GPs have not yet managed to put on SSRIs. what a great market for pharma!

    fuck this shit.

  4. hymes Says:

    Flawed Plan and AMA, as usual you both add nuance to my rant :) . Yeah, I’m thinking if your whole childhood is a living hell, if you don’t get a major depression you’re probably going to have something worse like attachment disorder (Not saying all the kids given that diagnosis actually have it, because I don’t believe that, but I do think some do because of their history and experience.) And of course there is a huge difference between ordinary depression and suicidal major depression. I’d still rather have the latter than kidney failure though, quite honestly, just speaking for myself. And definitely over AIDS or cancer from my observations.

    People in despair because they are in desperate situations don’t seem to be on the radar of WHO AMA, you’re right. I’m wondering what treatment exactly is going to help someone in Guantanamo or would have helped someone in the camps. I know Bettelheim is now contoversial but he made a good point I think when he said that people who were attached to others and feeling their feelings couldn’t survive the camps, implying to me that “treatment” would lead to death for people in these situations.

    I’m not liking this new director of Mental Health America. I’ve heard him speak. I can’t tell the difference between him and NAMI. Didn’t used to be the case.

  5. hymes Says:

    Sure, I should talk to my kidneys and think only good thoughts and my kidney failure will go away. Or I can do what I actually do, which is follow my nephrologist’s advice, watch what I eat, drink my ton of water each day, stay out of the heat, exercise and take my kidney drugs and vitamins. I’m going with my way, it got me off dialysis since February.

  6. thoughtsfromthetrailer Says:

    Yes depression is hard, but how can this guy say that it is the most disabling? Like you said kidney disease and HIV and cancer are far worse and they can cause depression. Depression is something, while not easily, can be beaten back with out surgery, chemotherapy, or hospitalization. Yes the mind controls the body and to an extent you can help your health with good positive thoughts, but depression will not eat away your insides or keep you from filtering out poisons in your bloodstream. He also lumps it all in one category when there are many types of depression. With him saying that it is going to set many depressed individuals back away from the road to recovery. I am still challenging my depression and no one is going to tell me that it is the most disabling disease that I can have.

  7. ama Says:

    well, my comment was mostly annoyed at the professed “globality” of WHO’s study. actually addressing the concrete causes of people’s “depression” (despair? hopelessness?) would go a long way towards making the depression better. so, say, allowing the katrina camps people to go home would, i’m sure, make them feel a hell of a lot better. i’ve heard really terrible reports about mental health in katrina camps. it sounds awful. and it’s not a matter of giving them prozac. it’s a matter of giving them decent lives.

    same with the guantanamo detainees who regularly attempt suicide.

    when i was severely depressed therapy really helped. but most people cannot afford good, long term therapy, so i propose that making that option available to more people would be a step in the right direction, too.

    but people who conduct these studies are in love with drugs, and that bugs me. drugs help, but they are not the door to everlasting happiness. it’s much easier, though, to say, give everyone prozac, than to say, improve the living conditions of the poor and the desperate.

    and if our first world cities were less alienating and less consumption-focused, and if there were true community spaces, and if we were less afraid and cowed into our little corners, maybe quite a few of us would feel a tiny bit better, too.

    i do believe that there is a type of depression that really, really sucks. i don’t know if it’s worse than diabetes or asthma. maybe sometimes it is. who can measure these things? my husband is diabetic and he thinks he has it better than being depressed as he saw me be some years back. i always thought i had it better, so there.

    kidney disease, cancer, and AIDS are not technically chronic conditions, right? i’m not really sure depression is, either, but wtf, this is all technicalities. still, i wouldn’t compare apples and oranges here. distinctions are important.

    as to the fact that you have kidney disease, alison, there is no getting around the fact that it’s really, really sucky. i’m so happy you are managing to stay off dialisis, cuz that doesn’t sound like fun at all. good luck to you on staying away from the machine.

  8. Tom James Says:

    It’s all bad news! How do you rate living in hell? Dying slowly?

    If you have ever had a “major depressive episode” or maybe 2, you are thankful there are drugs that prevent them, even though they have nasty side effects, and are by no means a cure..

    As my friends over at crazymeds.org says:

    “the drugs suck donkey dung. But you know what? When you’re mentally ill and you’re not taking the right medications, it sucks syphilitic donkey dong while a red-hot poker is being jammed up your ass. That’s what it’s like without any meds at all, and that’s what it’s like if you’re taking completely inappropriate medications. And that’s what it’s like if you’re taking neurological / psychiatric medications when you shouldn’t be taking any at all. ”

    As one Doc I know states, “there are not many good psychiatrist in the world period, and even fewer in Richmond.”

    There my friends lies the problem. How do you get the right drugs or treatment if your not under the care of a knowledgeable, ethical doctor?

    Add other medical problems such as liver disease, kidney disease, HIV, AIDS, now find a doctor who has a clue about the interaction of the diseased part of the body, the MI, and the meds. And I am sure conditions gets more complex.

    Dr. Klinger in Richmond studies and works with HIV, AIDS, patients with mental illness along with all their other failing body functions.

    Bottom line, Science has a long way to go, we think we understand things but we are really still in the dark ages and know nothing.

    Hell, who knew Global Dimming was cooling the earth and offsetting Global Warming?

    :>)

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/sun/about.html

  9. thememoryartist Says:

    “How do you get the right drugs or treatment if your not under the care of a knowledgeable, ethical doctor?”

    You learn to ask questions, You educate yourself. You take an active role in seeking out alternatives and making your own decisions. You become your own advocate, because no, there are not too many good psychiatrists in the world, and much of the time they aren’t even the necessary providers of treatment. They’d like people to think they are though.

  10. Kent Says:

    Science has always had a long way to go, I think, and it’s always been given more credit as an absolute authority than it deserves (just as was the case with religion, before it’s role was supplanted by science).

    Science may be more useful as a method – to look for explanations based on the evidence of experience – rather than as a source of absolute knowledge. Making your own decisions is always good advice, because noone else has as much of a vested interest in the results of those decisions as you do. The experts don’t usually have to live with the consequences of a bad decision that they make on your behalf.

    I think there’s still some truth in this poem written by Henry David Thoreau almost two centuries ago:

    “Men say they know many things
    But lo, they have taken wings.
    The arts and the sciences
    And a thousand appliances.
    The wind that blows
    Is all that anyone knows.”

  11. hymes Says:

    AIDS and kidney failure are definitely chronic illnesses in the U.S. and western world. In fact, chronic kidney failure is the name of what I have besided the lovely end stage renal disease which the feds. still insist on. AIDS is a chronic disease for 2/3 of those who have access to medications. Cancer can also be a chronic disease depending on the type.


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